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Old 2007-06-10
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I bet the manufactures of Tremclad and Sico didn't think to test for resistace to glow fuel! ... perhaps they would be interested in your test results Stephane!

Those little warbirds sure zoom along! I can't wait to see some real combat!
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About combats planes

This is a kind of new concept for me.
For sure I am interested.
Like I do before launching my self into something quite new I better play naive an ask all the questions that comes to me.

So here they are:
1) Is there a reason why all combat planes seem to be of size 25?
2) Is there only a price reason ?
3) Is there a separate class for 40 size combat planes?
4) Could a 40 size combat plane engage with a group of 25 size and still keeping the battle to be fair?
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Luc,

here are some answers:

1. All scale combat planes are of size 25. This has to do with competition rules, you can find these rules in the MAAC r/c combat committee. Everyone at the club has so far loosely followed the Open class B (dogfighters and 25 size engines) and Scale class rules (which I beleive was originally based on the 2610 rules from the states). For example, I am re-building a Mig-7 combat airplane, but I would not be able to bring it to the Nationals because only fighter aircraft that participated in WWII are allowed, plus, I'll be painting it in MiG-3 colors. So, it would not be legal in terms of scale subject, but it adheres to all other rules.

That doesn't mean you can't build an 80 inch coroplast Spitfire and stick a Weed wacker gasoline engine in it. It actually has been done! Check out www.spadworld.net in the "big'uns" section. But I would refuse to be anywhere near you if you played combat with that

2. Price does come into play, a 25 size engine can be bought for cheap, and does not cost much in fuel. Hardware is also cheap for such a small plane. I beleive this is one of the main reasons why 25 size was chosen.

3. Yes there is a seperate class for 40 sized combat, but not currently in scale combat (that I know of). You have to look into Open class C

4. I would not recommend it. I'm not entirely sure who would have the advantage, but in terms of safety, the larger the engine, the further out you need to be flying to stay safe.

Of course, all the above is mostly competition rules, as can be found on the MAAC website. We don't follow the rules to the letter. We're just having fun, using the guidelines found in the scale combat rulebook, or the Open Class B rulebook.
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25 size will be

Thanks for your update on this. Very much appreciated.


If I plan to build a 25 Dog Fighter which is not a scale model to anything I guess
I will then be able to join the air combats at WIMAC , will I?

If I won't take part of any official competition so I guess I can stick to one of the simplest SPAD, can I?
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A dogfighter is fine, this is what Albert and Ronald use for combat. So far, only Chris and I use scale airframes for combat.

Actually, I'm not even sure whether a dogfighter or a scale plane currently has an advantage in combat. The only time I did manage a streamer cut was with a dogfighter, but I find the scale combat planes fly better.

Also, get yourself a hardhat (fairly cheap at Canadian tire), I leave mine in the trunk of the car now and I'm going to start using it. In the middle of combat, I noticed that some of the planes tend to stray a bit close, and it's very easy to get disoriented - several people on Saturday thought they saw my Me109 hit on its belly (included myself)... but it hit inverted!
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I am getting the idea now.
First I will finish building that modified DPS 40 size just for fun.
Then I will put my self into building a Dog Fighter right after.
I would like to build a Corospit like Chris but I don't think I want to invest that
much time on this.

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Once you've built a coroplast plane, you can build a plane like the Corospit in a week. Less if you decide not to paint it
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dogfighting

Here are some new moves from the pros of dogfighting.Maybe some of you combat guys can use them.
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