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Old 2019-01-09
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Question about new rules

When flying our aircraft at the WIMAC field...is this considered as 'basic operation' or 'advanced operation'. It looks like we will need a pilot's certificate and a registration number for all aircraft as of June 1st, 2019.
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I think you’re referring to this
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Drones are aircraft—which makes you a pilot. When you fly your drone, you’re sharing the skies with other drones and aircraft.

Drone pilots must follow the rules in the Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs). Part IX – Remotely Piloted Aircraft Systems contains most of the rules that apply to drones. You should read these regulations in full before you fly your drone for the first time.

Drone pilots must carry a valid drone pilot certificate and only fly drones that are marked and registered.

In Canada, there are 2 main categories of drone operation: basic and advanced. Each one has a different set of rules drone pilots must follow.
Advanced operations
If you meet any 1 of these conditions, you are conducting advanced operations:

You want to fly in controlled airspace
You want to fly over bystanders
You want to fly within 30 metres (100 feet) of bystanders (measured horizontally
So at the field all bystanders are now spotters. Voila! Back to “basic” common sense
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If you follow the document links you will find the following statement: "While Part IX of the CARs applies to all RPAS, members of the Model Aeronautics Association of Canada (MAAC) operating at MAAC fields and MAAC sanctioned events will be issued an exemption to certain provisions of the CARs. Under the Act, footnote 8 the Minister has the authority to issue exemptions to the CARs; the exemption will be issued to MAAC before the end of the coming into force of the Regulations. "

So, hopefully the situation will stay as it is now - MAAC members operating at MAAC fields/events, and following MAAC rules are fine. Fly in the local park or vacant lot and you could be in trouble.
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If you follow the document links you will find the following statement: "While Part IX of the CARs applies to all RPAS, members of the Model Aeronautics Association of Canada (MAAC) operating at MAAC fields and MAAC sanctioned events will be issued an exemption to certain provisions of the CARs. Under the Act, footnote 8 the Minister has the authority to issue exemptions to the CARs; the exemption will be issued to MAAC before the end of the coming into force of the Regulations. "

So, hopefully the situation will stay as it is now - MAAC members operating at MAAC fields/events, and following MAAC rules are fine. Fly in the local park or vacant lot and you could be in trouble.
Bonjour Andrew,

thanks for helping us understand the impacts of this upcoming change. To be more specific, are we forbidden to fly a small EPP model at our local park? I live near a huge Soccer and baseball field and enjoy going there early in the morning or during times when nobody uses the facility to fly small foam models. If that is the case it will be a huge factor for me, might even force me to reconsider the future of this hobby...I can't imagine that flying a slow motion Clik R2 EPP model would represent any thread to anyone in the middle of a huge baseball field. But then I guess that it could be debated...
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I believe that they do want it to apply to flying in parks. And even if you get your permit, many of the municipalities have bylaws that outlaw it today anyway.

Andrew
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I believe that they do want it to apply to flying in parks. And even if you get your permit, many of the municipalities have bylaws that outlaw it today anyway.

Andrew
They do mention that if you fly models under 250g the rules don’t apply unless there is a bylaw at the park you fly.

Paul
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Message from MAAC

To all MAAC Members,

Re: Transport Canada Gazette II news release of January 10, 2019

We would like to advise you that the anticipated new regulations for Remotely Piloted Aircraft System (RPAS ) have now been published. However, it should be clearly understood that nothing has changed for MAAC members and even though the regulations have now been published, they do not take effect until 1st June 2019. Until that date the Interim Order Respecting the use of Model Aircraft remains in effect, and as this order does not apply to MAAC operations, MAAC members can continue to operate as we always have.

Once the new regulations do come into effect, they will apply to all aircraft without a pilot onboard, whether for recreational or non-recreational purposes. However, be assured that MAAC continues to working with Transport Canada to ensure your current privileges are protected. As we advised you in the last email update, MAAC is working with Transport Canada on an exemption from the new regulations. With this exemption, once the new regulations do come into effect, MAAC members will enjoy the same freedoms they always have. It is expected that the MAAC exemption will be approved well before the new regulations come into effect on 1st June 2019. In the meantime please see the attached letter from Transport Canada, Letter – AARV – MAAC 2019 – 01-09 showing their commitment to these ongoing efforts and the preservation of our privileges.

MAAC leadership continues to work for its members and to ensure that we can all enjoy our passion of operating model aircraft. We will provide additional updates, once we have secured the exemption. Until then, please let me repeat that nothing has changed for MAAC members and you can continue to operate as you always have.

On behalf of the MAAC transport Canada Advisory Group

Peter Schaffer

President - MAAC
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They do mention that if you fly models under 250g the rules don’t apply unless there is a bylaw at the park you fly.

Paul
Merci Paul. Il me semble qu'il doit y avoir quand même un peu de gros bon sens...
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Here are the regs coming into effect on 1st June:
https://www.tc.gc.ca/fr/services/avi...re-legale.html
I believe all MAAC members will be encouraged to read them as MAAC needs the support of its members to maintain constructive relations with TC by demonstrating understanding of and compliance with the new regs.

Under the new regs, if your aircraft is under 250 g, the only rule is that you should not fly recklessly.
If over 250g, for recreational flying, in a nutshell,you need to:
-get a basic drone/remotely piloted aircraft pilot’s certificate and register your aircraft (all doable online)
- fly away from airports, controlled/restricted airspace, urban areas, etc (basically most of the island of Montrêal is controlled airspace, except about 5% in the north west (where WIMAC field is) and at the extreme East end of the island. So Luc, only planes/drones under 250 g would be legal at your local park, assuming the Municipality allows it.

As mentioned in Michael J’s post from MAAC, TC is expected to announce certain exceptions to these rules for MAAC members before the new rules become effective, but only when flying at MAAC sanctioned sites and assuming MAAC Rules are followed.
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Excellent merci pour ces précisions. Je vais consulter la réglementation municipale.

Bonne journée et merci encore!
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